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STUDENT IN QUESTION ... SANA HUSSAIN
 

Welcome to the Students' Section. What exactly is this section all about? Well I am looking for your feedback to get the answer to that. To begin with, we will have a short Q&A session with a prominent student in the "Student in Question" and "Students' Corner" will give you an opportunity to have yourself heard.

Send your contributions to me at students@psoa.org.pk.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

– Smiffing Actuary


She did her Intermediate from P.E.C.H.S. College, joined State Life in 2001. In August 2005 she moved to NJI Life and since then working in the Actuarial Services Department.

How did you come to know about the actuarial profession?

I came to know about the actuarial profession through a relative. On further investigation, I found it to be different and challenging so I decided to give it a go.

What other professions did you consider before making the final decision of joining this profession?

Since I knew about the actuarial profession before my Intermediate examination, I was always intent on joining the actuarial field. However, I also joined FAST ICS for a brief period before joining actuarial training scheme at State Life. So if I hadn't joined State Life, I would probably have gone on to become an IT professional.

You have moved from State Life to NJI Life. In terms of work and working environment, did you find it difficult to adjust?

Both the institutions have their own learning opportunities. In State Life there was a very well established Actuarial Division which provided an opportunity to learn from seniors while progessing through examinations. The conventional life insurance portfolio of State Life allowed me to apply the traditional actuarial pricing and valuation techniques. However, I felt that the exposure to other areas of life insurance was limited in State Life. NJI provides me the opportunity to work in a dynamic work environment where I am involved in all lines of business - conventional, unit linked, group life, health and pensions. Furthermore, interaction with other departments is also much more fluid and direct.

How do you manage to work and study at the same time?

They have to be managed, so they are managed.

You are mostly involved in the traditional actuarial fields. In what other 'wider' fields you think actuaries can contribute?

I am of the opinion that actuaries are very adept at analyzing and evaluating risks - both in traditional areas and outside the traditional area of practice. I think actuaries can make very useful contributions in banking, investment and risk management areas.

Do you really think that it is difficult to explain people, not belonging to the actuarial profession, what exactly actuaries do?

Yes, it is. I guess everyone has come up with a watered down easy to gulp version of what an actuary does and utilises this to explain the actuarial profession. I just say (what I have been told by someone when inquiring about the profession) that it is like chartered accountancy - only a bit more difficult and requiring more studies.

How is the actuarial profession for the women?

The profession has its own set of advantages and disadvantages. I feel that it is wrong to generalise a profession based on gender. Personal preferences and attitute play the most important part in a profession. For me actuarial profession is very challenging, rewarding and I have found no problem pursuing it.

   

STUDENTS' CORNER


EXPLAINING THE INEXPLICABLE

Khurram discusses the issue that affects every member of the profession.

Actuaries are known to be dull individuals around the globe. Fortunately many people in our country are totally ignorant of the existence of this profession. This saves us from being stamped “out of life people”, albeit at the cost of spending numerous hours explaining to people what this profession is all about. Every time I meet new people, I think twice about shaking hands with them. Because I know the second question they would ask would be what I do and ultimately comes the dreaded the question: “Actuary……what is that?????”

I am sure my fellow colleagues have been through same agony since they became a part of this profession. People over time have developed various tactics to get around this question. One of my mates always told people he was working with an insurance company instead of telling them the domain of subject he was studying. Before he got too far, this idea backfired on him and whenever he told them he was affiliated with an insurance company, he was thought of as an insurance agent. The question that normally followed was "So how many policies do you sell each month?" This question always reassured him of how stretchy his hair was and how hard he could pull them. Good for him, though, he managed to save a few on his scalp and he can still dare to comb his hair without leaving any red scars. The lesson learnt from his story is to know how your own ploy can hit you back before jumping into the battleground.

Some people ultimately give up the struggle and resort to the last choice of lying their way out. They usually come up with alternate stories of them doing CA, ICMA or other such professional certificate courses. However, the situation becomes worse when the person you are speaking to is himself a CA, ICMA etc. You are then caught arrested in the unfriendly waters of the enemy. Questions keep coming from him and you keep pinching yourself and saying in your mind "Why could I just not tell him I was an insurance agent". The best way to tackle such a situation is to be excused for a glass of water or a natural emergency (!!!) Lesson learnt: "Know your enemy."

Sooner or later everyone comes across this question and 90% of the time asked by the people who have little knowledge of actuarial science. Actuaries have solved many complex problems over time. However, this still remains to be their toughest challenge to date. No one has been able to come up with an exact model (deterministic or stochastic) as to how to cope with such an assault. The most important factor to look at is the people you are around. Always remember to keep an eye on the type of people you are with. This can be broken down into the following categories

Your hangout dudes: no one cares what you do so you should just chill as well.

Your family relatives: always try and avoid meeting your aunties, they will keep bombarding you with questions you never even thought of. No one will even remember who you were after they left anyway.

Your actuarial buddies: most of the talking will take place in numbers rather than words here. Complex problems will be discussed here without anyone having a slightest idea of the topic in hand. But don't we just love to talk. By the way, most of the actuaries would be sitting late in the office working overtime anyway.

Your girl: no use telling her how you are stuck in your actuarial exams, puts a bad impression. Make sure she has a rich father and tell her how money means nothing between your relationship!!!

Actuaries, for this reason alone, prefer not meeting up with new people or socializing and instead prefer working long hours at office. This approach goes well with the typically dry statistical academic background that they have and brings nothing but pleasure to them.

Wish you all the best in your actuarial careers.


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Khurram Masud is an Assistant Manager at Sidat Hyder Morshed Associates and can be contacted at khurram.masud@sidathyder.com.pk

Question: How many actuaries does it take to change a light bulb?

Answer: How many did it take last year?